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When it comes to subjectivity in literature. I would say that all viewpoints are valid and yours is nearly as good as mine 😊

She says in her first paragraph of that a rich man single man must be looking for a wife. She says in chapter four that mister Darcy is hauty. No one would suggest that the first is an absolute truth of her world.There seems to be no better argument for the second. She is the inventor of third person inperfect narration. The former seems to be the opinion of the mother.And the latter seems to be the opinion of elizabeth as opposed to some omniscient source.

Pride and Prejudice and Zombies was also an interesting read lol

Shy! I can speak from personal experience, and I can confirm that when you first enter a place full of people you've never met before, it's not easy to be as polite as you should!

Oh no, she gave me anxiety growing up😆

Whatever our beautiful host interprets from the book is, without doubt, the true meaning.

Omigosh... Your microphone! 🩷

I think my comment wasn’t supposed to be in this video, UA-cam glitches are weird

It sounds tiring

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I think that the autism spectrum argument is interesting, but we expect so much more out of autistic people socially than anyone in Darcy's circles expected.

Both Mr. Darcy and Elizabeth Bennett are cynics dragged kicking and screaming into love

My favourite author...Jane Austen ❤ I like your videos. But Sorry for my ugly comment now! But your Pink microphone...with the upper part of it...😮

Another great chapter and another great commentary! Have you ever tried the 1983 version of Mansfield Park? It's a little dated in the acting, but fairly close to the book.

Thank you for making this video!! Subjective interpretatiom is the base of my profession, literature therapy :) <3

Interesting comparison: is Darcy more curt/rude to the people of Meryton than he is to Miss Bingley? And she won't leave him alone. Why would he want to invite MORE fawning flirtation? And the people of Merriton are very ready to flatter and flirt with him.

This was such a funny part of the live stream.

Mr. Darcy is not a goblin, but Mr. Bennett might indeed be a troll!

I think sometimes we got to accept that some characters/people are bad rather than saying they're misunderstood.

Darcy came as Bingley's wingman, BUT Darcy is hotter and richer - he upstages Bingley just by walking into the room. His goal is to help his friend rent a house and settle in, but if he didn't behave hautily, the entire community might be disappointed to "only" get Bingley. Darcy has 10 years of experience running a big estate, and Bingley has none, so there's real experience to share, as well as moral support. Darcy is selective about how much he invests - a lot in his hometown, dependents, close friends - minimally in people he can't/shouldn't avoid long-term (Lady Catherine, Miss Bingley) - as little as possible in people he'll probably never see again (Meryton ball)

the 2005 movie has nothing to do with Austen´s book. Yes, it is telling a lot about our time, and nothing of what it is telling is actually positive. We can see, as in a nutshell, degradation of Western culture in mere comparing the 1995 series and 2005 movie. Culture´s and civilization´s prime and decline. And no, speaking of subjectiveness is not to big help here. This post-modernist drivel is just another sign of decay. Professionals on the BBC, born in 1940-60s could understand their own history, language and literature, clowns who made the movie, born in 1970-80s - did not.

Thanks for the Emma 2020 review. I'll now have to watch the movie and read the book. By the way, red's your color...

A bottle of wine really isn't very much though… Let's be honest.

Labeling rude, selfish and prideful behavior as neurodivergent is insulting and demeaning to everyone who is neurodivergent. I know it's en vogue to label every behavior neurodivergent but some people are just jerks. Darcy isn't on the spectrum. He's a rude, selfish, and prideful jerk. He knows how to behave, he just doesn't if he feels company is beneath him. He literally spells this out in his speech to Elizabeth. The 2005 movie turned him into a YA romance trope.

Like I mentioned on the chat from chapter 4 Mr Darcy is where the "the guy is a jerk but he gets redeemed by love" and "this guy looks like jerk but he is complex and different when you truly meet him" tropes

Autoimmune diseases are so frustratingly common for being under diagnosed! I recently got together with my remote work team of 20 and we all started chatting about our ailments. Four of us, all women in our late 20s and early 30s, had multiple autoimmune diseases! It was nice at least to know we're not alone (I guess???)

It would be a tough call being a milliner or going to India- the death rate from disease was very high, then if you got married the chance of death in childbirth could be as high as one in five. Philadelphia was lucky she wasn't very fertile- her story arc could have been much worse. I think I would opt for slight societal disapproval, earn my own money and dodge death by yellow fever , cholera and childbirth.

mr darcy is a black cat lesbian 😂

Para comenzar, difiero totalmente que Darcy tuviera autismo, personas que tienen el espectro autista aunque tienen diferencias en su personalidad sí hay una serie de síntomas característicos y se evalúa en 1ro, 2do y 3er grado según su gravedad y tienen que ver con su comportamiento social, pero también con otras áreas de su neurodesarrollo. Es importante reconocer existen personalidades que no entran en el espectro y sí tienen características de introversión, malestar social en ciertos ambientes y que es completamente normal. Como leo el libro y como veo la interpretación del personaje de Darcy en la película de 2005, en mi imaginación creo que es una combinación de ambas interpretaciones que juegan con varios factores: Educación en un Ambiente familiar, más los convencionalismos sociales con los que crece Darcy, sumado con una personalidad introvertida y poco cómoda en situaciones sociales, sumado con formas de orgullo y pedantería al relacionarse con ciertos sectores de la sociedad (prejuicios). Darcy que al no tener muchas habilidades sociales y a su vez haber crecido en un ambiente que le ha enseñado que él está por encima de otros puede caer en estas actitudes groseras y es cuando lastima a Lizy. Sin embargo tiene la capacidad de observar sus errores y hacer cambios, sus prejuicios se van derrumbando al ver que aún en una sociedad menos afortunada hay personas con aguda inteligencia, buenos modales, belleza y perspicacia. Me encanta que cuando Darcy pierde toda esperanza de tener el amor de Lizy es cuando se interesa en hacer un cambio significativo para él y su crecimiento personal queriendo ser una mejor persona y hace cosas por ella porque simplemente la ama y es lo correcto.

I read someone somewhere who said the Georgian idea was that person is flawed and practices their religion to improve themselves. The Victorian idea was to develop perfectly. They said Jane Austen was presenting the Georgian idea. I prefer that idea to the idea of perfection now. As a younger person I was looking for a hero, as the song said.

On you're cake comment. King Arthur flour has a wonderful flourless chocolate cake recipe. I personally leave out the frosting and just dust with powdered sugar (too much chocolate others).

Darcy's immediate acknowledge and understanding of Elizabeth's acceptance rejection after the first proposal, his measured approach when they unexpectedly meet at Pemberley and his strategic approach to the Lydia situation ( especially knowing that he wished to leave Mr. Bennet out of it and deciding to deal with Uncle Gardiner instead) all indicate a deft control of communication and social skills enabling him to achieve his goals. In this context, the fact that he can be rude and dismissive does not suggest autism, rather, as the title of the book indicates, pride that tips over the line to over-confidence and insensitivity. Those traits could be forgiven if he labored under a neurodevelopmental deficit that left him unable to control such behavior in some situations, that is, he could not do better. That cannot be argued about Darcy who acts not under compulsion but a belief that it is his right.

Socially awkward is not necessary the right dichotomy. I think Darcy is an introvert. That doesn't mean he can't interact in social situations within being absolutely perfectly witty and charming and catching all nonverbal cues. Rather social interaction is draining. Extraverts are recharged by social interaction, introverts are drained. Darcy also has the misfortune of belonging to a social class in a period in which large amount of social interaction is required. That is he's already drained by previous required networking and come our first meeting, he doesn't want to expend the extra energy on the interactions. Yes there is discrimination on his part, but it's based on a cost vs reward model rather than pure snobbery. I don't think that goes against how she wrote him, it's just adding a psychological understanding that didn't exist in the Regency.

I couldn't stand Emma. That was the hardest Austen novel for me to read.

With Austen, I like to discover the characters anew, each time I read. I don't feel I'm wedded to one idea of any of them. It's one of the sublime things about Austen, that there *is* always something new to discover. Fun fact: when the script of 1995 P&P was still a work in progress, screen writer Andrew Davies gave a talk at the Brighton Literary Festival entitled 'Mr Darcy In The Bath'. His aim was to give a sense of how he was going to show us a Darcy we hadn't seen before, a Darcy in some private moments.

I read P&P, and I see Darcy as being on the autism spectrum. Obviously, that diagnosis was not a thing when the book was written and couldn't be the intent of Jane Austen. However, he could have been inspired by a person who, if alive today, would be diagnosed with ASD. In the end, none of this matters. I read him as on the spectrum, and others do not. Both and neither is true. Literature is art, and art is subjective.

Loving this and the chat afterwards too! I appreciate the insight and how well thought out your live streams are☺️

There’s no one right way, but there are definitely wrong ways…

So long as you can support your claim from the text, it's a valid read. So there can be multiple possible interpretations, but not INFINITE possible interpretations. And when you CAN'T support your claim from the text (e.g. Mr. Darcy is an extraterrestrial goblin), then it's headcannon Also, there's a difference between subjective enjoyment ("I really liked Mr. Darcy as a character!") and objective interpretation ("Mr. Darcy was a caring person to the people he loved"). You can't really argue with the first -- someone's enjoyment of a text, character, or trope is what it is. The latter IS up for debate, based on what's in the text.

I would argue Colonel Brandon because he basically sees Marianne as a reminder of his lost love Eliza and that’s really messed up.

At the beginning, he's got a heart of gold and some jerkish tendencies. By the end, he's still got that heart of gold and has worked through a lot of his haughtiness.

Death of the Author is the concept that the Author knows more about the fiction than the reader, like the world and lore, and has specific intent or meanings and symbols. However readers reinterpret the text and the subtext, and read in-between the lines. Context and consensus are generally used to determine accepted interpretation.

So basically a real gentleman was more like Christ.

Mr. Darcy is Hustle Culture in the Streets and Goblin Mode in the Sheets

Mini series done well always will be timeless - 1995 P & P is just that good! 😃📚💜 Although I do love the Emma Thompson Sense and Sensibility because the sisters relationship just really works for me and feels like the focus. Whereas the mini series focused on more of the Brandon backstory. But I dud enjoy the inclusion of Lucy Steeles sister with her talk of "beaux" 😂

I enjoyed this.

RIP Donald Sutherland. He was a lovely Mr. Bennet.

If we look at the timeline, the party arrives in Netherfield in ? Mid/ late summer. Wasn’t that just after the business with Wickham and Georgiana? Could Darcy still be brooding from that?

I don’t do pop-ins. Everybody in my life knows I don’t do pop-ins. Turn up at my house without notice and I’ll be hiding upstairs. Because I don’t do pop-ins!

I always thought from Jane Austin's descriptions of Darcy that he was on the Autistic spectrum. Of course in those days they wouldn't have seen it that way.